2010 Ford F-150 and a Deck?? Legal??

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Haha this section should be called:

TOW VEHICLES, RV's, TRAILERS and CAN I PUT A DECK ON MY 1/2 TON??
 

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sorry but you have no idea what yu are talking about. the numbers on the drivers door mean something, if you have no idea what they are for mabe you should find out as it can cost you big if the dot's pull you over

Have you been checked over by Dots.
 

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i have put 2 m-series sleds on my 2004 f150 5.5 ft box when i had a deck on it for my sport quads and i can for sure tell you you will be over weight i know i was!! lol
 

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Did some more calculations on my F150 Crewcab 4x4.

Front axle weight 1640 kg
Rear axle weight 1260 kg
total weight 2900 kg

From the door sticker:
Front axle max weight 1769 kg
Rear axle max weight 1746 kg
total weight (GVWR) 3266 kg

So really I can get another 366 kg or 800lbs in my truck. The weights from the scale are with me in it, almost a full tank of gas and two boxes or paper in the back seat that I was moving for my Dad. So really I might just be able to get the deck and one sled on it but no gear or beer.
 

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Did some more calculations on my F150 Crewcab 4x4.

Front axle weight 1640 kg
Rear axle weight 1260 kg
total weight 2900 kg

From the door sticker:
Front axle max weight 1769 kg
Rear axle max weight 1746 kg
total weight (GVWR) 3266 kg

So really I can get another 366 kg or 800lbs in my truck. The weights from the scale are with me in it, almost a full tank of gas and two boxes or paper in the back seat that I was moving for my Dad. So really I might just be able to get the deck and one sled on it but no gear or beer.

Ya 800lbs is about the max payload for a half ton .So 4 average guys and a 6 pack of LIGHT beer,,:rolleyes:
 

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There are SOME exceptions. Like I found out my dodge 3500 SRW has the IDENTICAL load carrying capacity of a dually as far as frame, axles, brakes, EVERYTHING is concerned, tires are the limiting factor on the door sticker. So, legally I can ignore that and go up to my new max axle weight or where my tires limit me because my tires allow me more, the reason I looked into this is because I am going to duallies. It's a tricky thing, but do research and you'll figure it out. But figure on a good 2,000lbs for 2 sleds, 2 guys, gear, fuel, etc. If you can't haul that or even if your tipping right at max, you can't do it.

And, if you can't haul/tow the load without air bags safely you can't do it safely with them. They are there to help stabilize the load, but not make a truck haul something it shouldn't be.

And to be honest, I hope they start pulling over these half tons with decks and 2 sleds and weighting them and giveing people overweight tickets. It will make people learn and be safer. Saying you cannot afford a proper truck is BULLCHIT. Half of them got nearly new sleds. And how much more is a gas job 2500 over a 1500? Maybe $2000? So what if they don't see the same mileage, you might realize it was a good idea when you end up in the ditch one day....
 

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Can anyone explain why in Alberta you can just go into the registry office and get your truck or suv gvrw up by paying a fee. My dads expedition is now certified for 7000kg. The dots told us in Alberta as long as your tires and brakes can handle the load on a trailer they dont care how much you are pulling.
 

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In Alberta you can register a smart car for 50,000kg if you want. Doesn't mean the vehicle can handle it. You just cannot exceed what you are registered for. But what you are registered for does not mean you can haul/tow that much.
 

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In BC, what you register your vehicle for means nothing. DOT will look at the door sticker, and what the scale says, and either pass you, or make your life miserable.
 

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I thought the payload was the big advantage to the new fords????

According to fordvehicles.com

2010 ford F-150 4x2 regular cab H/D has a payload capacity of 3030lbs
2010 ford F-150 4x4 supercab H/D has a payload capacity of 2350 (163" WB)
2010 ford F-150 4x2 supercap H/D has a payload capacity of 2660 (163" WB)

I would think that if the factory rating is between 2350 and 3030lbs... even with...

2 people @ 200lbs each = 400lbs
2 bags @ 50lbs each = 100lbs
2 sleds @ 700lbs each = 1400lbs
deck @ 400lbs = 400Lbs
Beer @ 50lbs = 50lbs

total = 2350lbs barely legal in a 4x4 (legal none the less) lots of room in the 4x2

I still won't run anything under a 3/4 and prefer the 1 ton (my 2500 diesel is rated the same as my 3500 gas)

just playing devils advocate....
 
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Anyone phone the DOTs and ask them in Alberta, because when they pull you over they check what your tires are rated for and if you have breaks on trailer axles and what your registered for. I know that a suv that is registered to pull heavy isnt good but I dont think the DOTS care if you wreck your truck. As long as you have the brakes to stop the load your pulling on your trailer. This is what they told us.I am not saying its right but thats what they said.
 

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My friend has a bare bones regular cab F150 4x4 with a standard transmission. We have gone on many trips sledding with it but always tow a trailer because of the weight issues running a deck with 2 sleds.
 

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Anyone phone the DOTs and ask them in Alberta, because when they pull you over they check what your tires are rated for and if you have breaks on trailer axles and what your registered for. I know that a suv that is registered to pull heavy isnt good but I dont think the DOTS care if you wreck your truck. As long as you have the brakes to stop the load your pulling on your trailer. This is what they told us.I am not saying its right but thats what they said.

I did phone the dot's in alberta and B.C. and asked them about the rules with hauling sleds on my half ton, blah, blah, blah, and half way through the guy stopped me and asked if I was hauling these commericially, I said no personnal, then he said whats the problem, the point of the dot's and scales is for commerical traffic only.
 

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I did phone the dot's in alberta and B.C. and asked them about the rules with hauling sleds on my half ton, blah, blah, blah, and half way through the guy stopped me and asked if I was hauling these commericially, I said no personnal, then he said whats the problem, the point of the dot's and scales is for commerical traffic only.

While personal vehicles are not required to scale in, they can be pulled over and told to scale in at ANYTIME. Doesn't matter if your commercial or personal overloaded is overloaded and if DOT catches you you'll still be fined if personal.
 

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While personal vehicles are not required to scale in, they can be pulled over and told to scale in at ANYTIME. Doesn't matter if your commercial or personal overloaded is overloaded and if DOT catches you you'll still be fined if personal.

one time going through slave lake they had a check stop at the scales, i had my welding skid out of my truck at the time, my truck is registered commercial they were pulling everybody in when i got there they asked how i was registered, said commercial they waved me through just pulling over personal vehicles thought that was kinda weird :confused:
 
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