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We did 130km on Saturday, blue bird day, lots of WOT and when we got back to the truck the T850 oil tank was just below half, about a 1/4" lower than the stock 850doos, everyone in the group had dumped there Jerry cans in and fuel lights were all on again, not sure how hard core you are but...

That's a very different result than what I saw, we had a deep pow sunny day in north blue, I had to break trail all day to get in and the 850 Polaris with us had to dump his Jerry can in shortly after I did, maybe yours is just really good on fuel, I am just letting people know what I experienced.

I was fortunate enough, thanks to the wonderful folks at Gateway SS, to spend a few days on the new 850 turbo. I know a lot of people have questions and if your like me, you don't always take what the reps and salesmen say as gospel and real world opinions from an average joe mean more. So...

You are basically correct, the X and Freeride both adopt the shorter Expert tunnel and spindles/ski bushings, the only thing the expert has over either is the lower riser, hand guards, the fancy kashima coated shocks and adjustable limiter. The expert also comes standard with SHOt but you can...

Even though the pic doesn't look like it, the X is priced with the turbo, which should be obvious by the price.

So after going through the build process sever times I am seeing that apples to apples, 165 3", both with shot, the expert is $800 more than an X. Now for that extra $800 all I'm seeing is the extra low riser for all you under 6' fellas, fancy kashima coated shocks, adjustable limiter strap and...

So I just got back from 4 days on the new turbski, thanks to Gateway SS in Rocky Mtn House, and I think the trenching woes are being blown out of proportion. Not once did I run the limiter strap in the short position and I rode everything from 3' of fresh up high around blue river to more set up...

That's what I thought too but when I put them up against my old ones, there is a slightly different bend in them, I should have took a picture, but its probably the rubbers that made the most difference.

I had a lot of the same questions about the expert, thanks for info fellas. One thing I did do this year was put the expert spindles and ski rubbers on my '18, I'm a fairly seasoned riser and have rode them all and I don't even understand how such a small change made such a big difference but...

No, sorry for the confusion, I was going to undertake that task but decided to sell the 165 and found a reasonably priced 175x, it came from the factory as a 175. I just put the new baker set up in the rear and put the expert spindles on the front. I Quite like it so far.

That's an interesting point Caper, this one has a GGb mountain on it and my 165 was an mbrp trail can which I know lots of guys don't like but I ran them on several XM's and XP's without issue. Other than that though the 175 is stock motor wise, only other changes are skid and front end, this...

I see where you're coming from Dave and I agree, but I had the removable on my 165 and only ever put it on in spring trail conditions and it always ran cooler. I would think a trimmed flap would aid in cooling more than no flap should it not? This 175 was a bit of a budget build just to try one...

First ride on my '18 175 the other day and I found the coolant temps 5-10 deg hotter than my '18 165 on the trail in, the 175 seems to run around 55deg and will jump up to 62deg if you wail on it for a while, was decent snow on the way in, scratchers down and flap is trimmed but still lots...

Looking for suggestions on decent upholstery place in central AB, Red Deer or west, to redo some sled seats. TIA

Well isn't that interesting, in a really weird way, what in the actual F is that?

Interested, sent you a dm.

They should have explained it in terms of power gains rather than maintaining stock HP. Think of it this way, for every 1000' a 2 stroke loses 3% of its power compared to sea level, so at the usual 6000' and up we ride at based on the 850 being 165hp, we are down to roughly 135hp in the alpine...