What's bent?

[-lenny-]

So just puttering around a little. Pulling the primaries to clean and inspect.


Nothing to report on this one....



Whoah, that's not right...



Hard to see, but on the left clutch, the bolts around the ring gear have a shiny leading edge from trying to cut through that motor mount...



PTO side....



And Mag side... Significant difference. I do recall bouncing off a log on the mag side last time I had it out.


XMs, stock.

 

[Caper11]

Have a look at the s module. Yah might have to lower the skid plate if yah have one to inspect it. The rubbing probably came from the moment of impact, and wears very quick.
Yah must off bounced really hard, to cause a deflection like that to happen.
Do you jump alot?, I see yah have the shock springs setup stiff. The same thing can happen on big air landings, and s-modules can bend on landings as well


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[BRP QSC]

Yup for sure the S module is tweaked. look where the sway bar is in the top pic and check where the two lower control arms mount to the frame(rear mount on ribbed aluminum frame piece). if you lift and look at the brace right there it is bent for sure. You have a choice... ride it until you hit something else or replace it before the season starts. Its easy.. 4hours and 6 beers you will have it back together again. When they sell you the S module kit don't forget to get all the bolts and rivets that you will need. also change the bushings for the control arms at the same time as the pressure on them after the S module was bent will wear them out prematurely. I put mine up on a hoist and have all the tools and was done in 3 hours without the beer. No special tools needed. A hammer & chisel (for large rivets) drill, vice grips, rivet gun, torque wrench, wrenches,sockets oh ya and beer... lol don't forget that

 

[-lenny-]

S module, I guess I should have sprung for Grip N Rip braces last year! Oh well, another learning experience.

As for the shocks, I find the stock suspension is incredibly soft. Stock maxed out I can still bottom out quite easily (and I am not a big guy either). The other sled has Enzo suspension, which I really like. Plan on doing that to the bent one this summer.

 

[lilduke]

S module, I guess I should have sprung for Grip N Rip braces last year! Oh well, another learning experience.

As for the shocks, I find the stock suspension is incredibly soft. Stock maxed out I can still bottom out quite easily (and I am not a big guy either). The other sled has Enzo suspension, which I really like. Plan on doing that to the bent one this summer.

That adjustment is strictly for ride hieght,, Not like its going to change your spring rate. You need stiffer springs....

 

[maxwell]

Don't start tearing it apart. Very possible that's from an isolated hard impact. At 8000rpm it doesn't take long to do that. If it doesn't rub at idle or at rpm on a track stand just leave it IMO

 

[-lenny-]

That adjustment is strictly for ride hieght,, Not like its going to change your spring rate.

I agree it doesn't change the spring rate, but it does start you out with a higher load and helps marginally with bottoming.

You need stiffer springs....

I totally agree. I'm sending these shocks to Enzo for revalving and stiffer springs this summer. Makes an incredible difference.

 

[-lenny-]

Don't start tearing it apart. Very possible that's from an isolated hard impact. At 8000rpm it doesn't take long to do that. If it doesn't rub at idle or at rpm on a track stand just leave it IMO

I did not notice any vibration last time i rode it, and it didn't sound any different than the other one when I did the "summerization" in the trailer last week. IE no rub at idle.

 

[Modman]

I did not notice any vibration last time i rode it, and it didn't sound any different than the other one when I did the "summerization" in the trailer last week. IE no rub at idle.

That being said, your warranty could be void on other parts if you don't fix the issue at hand. while it clearly was tweaked from an impact, there could be lots of things you are not seeing that is affecting performance etc on your sled. Think belt alignment for one, if your clutch is rubbing the bulkhead clearly your belt alignment is off now, even if its not rubbing at idle. Once the motor torques itself, it could be causing alignment issues or it might only be twisting that far under really hard acceleration. I personally would not want my clutch rubbing on the bulkhead at 8000 RPM, first there is parasitic power loss (less performance), secondly it could cause issues with either clutch balance or crank. A clutch is not something you want vibrating at 8000 RPM when climbing a big hill. Thirdly, the damage to the linkages etc could make steering more difficult or cause other premature wear as mentioned.

If it was me, I have the time now before next season, I would replace it and get the braces, but that's me. Nothing is going to suck more than going out for your first ride next winter, tagging a small stump or tree and pushing the arm that little bit further so that you have to replace it when you could be riding. Also gives you a chance to do any other routine maintenance required while the plastics are off. The downside to all of this is that you risk damaging it again and then replacing parts that were just replaced. If its causing premature wear on your belt, that's a potentially expensive $150+ gamble. Your choice.

 

[mareshow]

My s-module was tweaked and my a arms looked identical to that. 2 motor mounts were broke too. That being said, motor had to be pulled to fix it. expensive to say the least -.-

 

[DaltonW]

My s-module was tweaked and my a arms looked identical to that. 2 motor mounts were broke too. That being said, motor had to be pulled to fix it. expensive to say the least -.-

Thats what happens when you smash a stake when spooled right up. :d

 

[Joholio]

I gotta get my gripnrip kits installed before winter... Don't need another 2g bill at Turps.

Every factory is so concerned with weight! I would gladly take the ten additional pounds it would take to have a beefed up steering post, s-module and rails(frails). Hopefully someone from Doo reads this. I could skip a few beers and cheeseburgers to compensate.

 

[snopro]

I gotta get my gripnrip kits installed before winter... Don't need another 2g bill at Turps.

Every factory is so concerned with weight! I would gladly take the ten additional pounds it would take to have a beefed up steering post, s-module and rails(frails). Hopefully someone from Doo reads this. I could skip a few beers and cheeseburgers to compensate.

Trust me there are alot of peeps that don't see your point of view. Its all about the weight for most.

 

[maxwell]

Trust me there are alot of peeps that don't see your point of view. Its all about the weight for most.

Exactly. If doo gained 10lbs they would be the laughing stock of the snowmobile industry lol.

Personally never bent anything on the Xms this season but the right impact will do damage. Even with bracing

 

[teamgreen]

Exactly. If doo gained 10lbs they would be the laughing stock of the snowmobile industry lol.

Personally never bent anything on the Xms this season but the right impact will do damage. Even with bracing

Maybe you didnt ride hard enough you pansy

 

[tex78]

I gotta get my gripnrip kits installed before winter... Don't need another 2g bill at Turps.

Every factory is so concerned with weight! I would gladly take the ten additional pounds it would take to have a beefed up steering post, s-module and rails(frails). Hopefully someone from Doo reads this. I could skip a few beers and cheeseburgers to compensate.

Are u sure u could miss that stuff ??



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[Joholio]

Lol prob not

 

[Modman]

I gotta get my gripnrip kits installed before winter... Don't need another 2g bill at Turps.

Every factory is so concerned with weight! I would gladly take the ten additional pounds it would take to have a beefed up steering post, s-module and rails(frails). Hopefully someone from Doo reads this. I could skip a few beers and cheeseburgers to compensate.

I remember getting flamed pretty hard earlier last year by some peeps here when I suggested sleds would be better off if they gained 10 lbs back LOL...boy did that set some peeps off!

Glad to see some people are starting to grasp the reality of these "lightweight" sleds. Don't matter how light they make it if you gotta add 10 lbs of bracing back in the a-arms or module, you just added it back anyway, or if its sitting in your garage because of a busted part like a driveshaft where someone tried to save 0.5 lb, it becomes the heaviest paperweight you own.

 

[lilduke]

I gotta get my gripnrip kits installed before winter... Don't need another 2g bill at Turps.

Every factory is so concerned with weight! I would gladly take the ten additional pounds it would take to have a beefed up steering post, s-module and rails(frails). Hopefully someone from Doo reads this. I could skip a few beers and cheeseburgers to compensate.

One of the reasons I went with the freeride over the X this year,

and im still goona brace the S-module,,,and get a skid plate.

Ill see how the rails hold up,, Hopefully wont have to change them out.

 

[Joholio]

The stock cast S-module is a piece of potmetal dog****.