Quebec and the "Tarsands"

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Interesting article from Calgary Herald.

Of course,"Maierch" will ensure the facts are correct....


This is the typical Alberta view on our relationship with the ROC (rest of Canada ), excluding B.C. and Saskatchewan of course.
Fascinating article by Lisa Corbella of the Calgary Herald.


Something has to give !!

Quebec and the Fairy Godmother



Today, let's have some fun and play Fairy Godmother to Quebec . Let's grant the province the wish it articulated in Copenhagen . Wave the magic wand and poof, wish granted. Shut down Alberta 's oilsands, except, since it's Quebec making the wish, we have to call it tarsands, even though it's not tar they use to run their Bombardier Planes, Trains and Skidoo's.

Ah, at last! The blight on Canada 's reputation shut down. All those dastardly workers from across Canada living in Fort McMurray,Calgary and Edmonton out of jobs, including those waitresses, truck drivers,nurses, teachers, doctors, pilots, engineers etc. They can all go on Employment insurance like Ontario autoworkers and Quebec parts makers! Closing down Alberta 's oil industry would immediately stop the production of 1.8 million barrels of oil a day. Supply and demand being what it is, oil prices will go up and therefore the cost at the pump will go up too,increasing the cost of everything else.

But lost jobs in Alberta and across the country along with higher gas prices are a small price to pay to save the world and not "embarrass" Quebecers on the world stage. Not to worry though, Saudi Arabia, Libya and Nigeria can come to the rescue. You know, the guys who pump money into al-Qaida and help Osama bin Laden target those Van Doos fighting in Afghanistan . Bloody oil is so much nicer than dirty tarsands oil.

Shutting down the oilsands will reduce Canada 's greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions by 38.4 Mt (megatonnes). Hooray! It's so fun to be a Fairy Godmother! While that sounds like a lot, Canada only produces two percent of the world's man-made GHGs and the oilsands only produce five per cent of Canada 's total emissions or 0.1 per cent of the world's emissions. By comparison, the U.S. produces 20.2 per cent of the world's
GHG emissions, 27 per cent of which comes from coal-fired electricity.

The 530-square-kilometre piece of land currently disturbed by the oilsands (which is smaller than the John F. Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral , Fla. at 570 square kilometres) must be reclaimed by law and will return to Alberta's 381,000 square kilometres of boreal forest, a huge carbon sink.

Quebec , of course, has clean hydro power, but more than 13,000 square kilometres were drowned for the James Bay hydroelectric project, permanently removing that forest from acting as a carbon sink.

But Fairy Godmother is digressing all over the place. While the oilsands only produce five per cent of Canada's GHGs, it contributes much more to Canada 's economy. After all, oil and gas make up one-quarter of the value on the Toronto TSX alone. Alberta is also the largest net contributor per capita by far to Confederation and there are only two more -- B.C. and Ontario .

Quebec hasn't made a net contribution to the rest of Canada for a very long time. This is not to be critical (after all, Fairy Godmothers never criticize), it's just a fact. In 2009, Albertans paid $40.46 billion in income, corporate and other taxes to the federal government and received back just $19.35 billion in services and goods from the feds. That means the rest of Canada got $21.1 billion from Albertans or $5,742 for each and every Alberta man, woman and child. In 2007 (the last year national figures are available), Alberta sent a net contribution of $19.49 billion to the ROC or $5,553 per Albertan -- more than three times what every Ontarian contributes at $1,757. Quebecers, on the other hand, each received $627 net or a total of $8 billion, money which was designed to help "equalize" social programs across the country. Except, that's not what
is happening. Quebec has more generous social programs like (nearly) free university tuition (paid for mostly by Albertans) and cheap provincial day care (paid for mostly by Albertans).

But in this Fairy Godmother world, poof, those delightful unequal programs have now disappeared! Quel dommage!

The July 2009 Canadian Energy Research Institute (CERI) report states that between 2008 and 2032, the oilsands will account for 172,000 person-years of employment in Ontario during the construction phase, plus 640,000 for operations over the 25-year period. For Quebec , the oilsands will account for 84,000 person-years of employment during the construction phase, plus 292,000 for operations over the 25-year period.

In total, the oilsands are expected to add $1.7 trillion to Canada 's GDP over the next 25 years.

Wave wand and Poof, Jobs, gone! So, now that the oil industry has shut down and left Alberta , Alberta has become a have-not province and so has every other province. Equality at last! Hugo Chavez and Obama will be so pleased.

Meeting our Copenhagen targets suddenly looks possible, as most of us can't afford to drive our cars or buy anything but necessities,so manufacturers have closed their doors and emissions are way down.

The dream of many Quebecers to form their own nation and separate from Canada has died at last.
Alas, in Alberta, separatist sentiment has risen dramatically, citizens vote to separate and the oil and gas industry returns.

Albertans start to pocket that almost $6,000 for each person that used to get sent elsewhere and now their kids get free tuition. Fairy Godmother's work is done. Wish granted. Quebecers must now sign up for a foreign worker Visas to work in Alberta to send their cheques back home so junior can start saving up to pay for college.

Licia Corbella is editorial page editor of The Calgary Herald.
 

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im guessing there will be a few "letters to the editor " from the van doos on this one. awesome article though.
 

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maybe the Fairy God Mother should wave her wand and make Quebec disappear instead and Alberta doesn't have to worry about sending more money that way.
 

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Wish my Pa was alive to read that, he'd have had tears of joy running down his face.
 

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27 per cent of which comes from coal-fired electricity

ding ding ding.....Winning!

Quebec (aka the money pit) = Losing!
 

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ya hit her right out of the park. i wonder when marich is gonna chime in on this?? skidoo and quebec should probably just give up.
 

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'So are you saying that other provinces that are "have Provinces" that pay in when things are good have nothing to contribute or contribute nothing?

Since when was the contribution of commodities the only source of creation of wealth in this country? We are better off as Canadians when we have diversity, the ability to adjust to change, and we have have had that flexibility for a long time.

The province I move to would be Alberta if the NDP came to power again in this province. Heaven forbid.

Seriously when did Alberta become a province that is so obsessed with Quebec and not Ontario. Has the economy taken such a beating that it open season on Les Quebecois.

Alberta must enjoy a pretty decent standard of living. You guys had Kline, quite popular. We Campbell same grain as RK,here he pisses off people they run to the NDP. WTF, no one ever made the money they did under the NDP that a they made under a right wing government.

Alberta really has no reason to feel sorry for it self.
 

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im guessing there will be a few "letters to the editor " from the van doos on this one. awesome article though.

The ones in Afghanistan? They probably have more important things to worry about. It's from the Calgary Herald, not the Montreal Free Press, can't imagine many Quebecers will have seen it.
 

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'So are you saying that other provinces that are "have Provinces" that pay in when things are good have nothing to contribute or contribute nothing?

Since when was the contribution of commodities the only source of creation of wealth in this country? We are better off as Canadians when we have diversity, the ability to adjust to change, and we have have had that flexibility for a long time.

The province I move to would be Alberta if the NDP came to power again in this province. Heaven forbid.

Seriously when did Alberta become a province that is so obsessed with Quebec and not Ontario. Has the economy taken such a beating that it open season on Les Quebecois.

Alberta must enjoy a pretty decent standard of living. You guys had Kline, quite popular. We Campbell same grain as RK,here he pisses off people they run to the NDP. WTF, no one ever made the money they did under the NDP that a they made under a right wing government.

Alberta really has no reason to feel sorry for it self.

Hmm....I think you missed the part of the article where they ch!t on us for operating in the oilsands, yet they don't mind the big brown bag of cash each and everyone of us gives them.

I want a discount on BRP products....haha
 

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Hmm....I think you missed the part of the article where they ch!t on us for operating in the oilsands, yet they don't mind the big brown bag of cash each and everyone of us gives them.

I want a discount on BRP products....haha

I did miss that part.

As far as the oilsands critics lump them in with the Leaflickers down south. Don't blame people for meeting demand, simple economics.

What I'm saying is that outside of AB, others recognize that if you want to work then the opportunities exist and there are people taking advantage.

The collapse of the automotive sector in the east has left few places for people to make a middle class living and AB is one of them.:beer:

In BC we get tired of the whining from the east as well.
 

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Hmm....I think you missed the part of the article where they ch!t on us for operating in the oilsands, yet they don't mind the big brown bag of cash each and everyone of us gives them.

I want a discount on BRP products....haha

I want a discount of friggin gas!!!!
 
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