Diesel Fuel

[NosRX1]

I am alittle confused on all the new diesel specs. A friend of mine was looking to buy the new 08 powerstroke, ford tells him that he can't burn purple farm diesel because the there is too much sulfur in it. Ford says that it has to be ultra low sulfur diesel or else it voids warranty. Ultra low sulfur diesel is not sold at all stations, making it hard to fuel up any and everywhere. Ford is telling him that in 2010 that is the only diesel that can be sold in Canada, so what does this mean for the older model diesels? Are these older trucks going to start have engine issues from not having a diesel that doesn't lubricates pumps and injectors. I am alittle blown away by all these changes if anyone has any insight on this I would love to hear it?

 

[Summitric]

i am alittle confused on all the new diesel specs. A friend of mine was looking to buy the new 08 powerstroke, ford tells him that he can't burn purple farm diesel because the there is too much sulfur in it. Ford says that it has to be ultra low sulfur diesel or else it voids warranty. Ultra low sulfur diesel is not sold at all stations, making it hard to fuel up any and everywhere. Ford is telling him that in 2010 that is the only diesel that can be sold in canada, so what does this mean for the older model diesels? are these older trucks going to start have engine issues from not having a diesel that doesn't lubricates pumps and injectors. I am alittle blown away by all these changes if anyone has any insight on this i would love to hear it?

older diesels won't have any problems with the "ultra low" sulphur content of the new fuels....... By mid 2007 all diesel fuel will be "ultra low" sulphur fuel(by law). Thats why diesel fuel prices went up so much lately. Its like they did with regular leaded and leaded gasolines. They put in additives to take care of the lubrication that the sulphur assisted in. No worries, mate!!! also note that "purple"(marked) diesel is illegal to run in any hiway driven vehicle. .......... Sshhhhhh!!!

 

[Shredder]

I contacted Ford Canada with the same question on the availability of ULSD. I wanted to hear right from Ford, before I submitted my order for my '08 PSD. The reply I got back said that all diesel sold at the pumps of the major petro. companies in Canada; is already ULSD. However in Canada the diesel pumps are not required to display a "grade" as they are in the United States. So from what they said we've all been running ULSD for a while already. I can't wait for my new FX4 to arrive....

 

[renegade x]

I always understood that as long as a vehicle displayed farm plates and proper registration it could run marked [purple] fuel.

 

[NosRX1]

I always understood that as long as a vehicle displayed farm plates and proper registration it could run marked [purple] fuel.

Your right any marked farm plate truck can run purple diesel as long as it is being used for farm use.

Summitric its seems like your well informed on this issue is the dyed purple diesel that goes out to farms/ranches and oil rigs ultra low suflur? And if not what is ford thinking saying you can't run purple fuel in there trucks I would think this would be a major loss of revenue for Ford.

 

[Summitric]

Good Question

your right any marked farm plate truck can run purple diesel as long as it is being used for farm use. Summitric its seems like your well informed on this issue is the dyed purple diesel that goes out to farms/ranches and oil rigs ultra low suflur? and if not what is ford thinking saying you can't run purple fuel in there trucks i would think this would be a major loss of revenue for ford.

i don't deal on the wholesale/bulk stations much, so i'll have to dig into it..... But from what i understood, farm vehicles are not part of the kyoto solution, so the fuel is not regulated for farm vehicles yet. I will check and confirm for you though.

 

[Summitric]

Good Question & Now Answered

your right any marked farm plate truck can run purple diesel as long as it is being used for farm use. Summitric its seems like your well informed on this issue is the dyed purple diesel that goes out to farms/ranches and oil rigs ultra low suflur? and if not what is ford thinking saying you can't run purple fuel in there trucks i would think this would be a major loss of revenue for ford.

i don't deal on the wholesale/bulk stations much, so i'll have to dig into it..... But from what i understand, farm vehicles are not part of the kyoto solution, so the fuel is not regulated for farm vehicles yet. I will check and confirm for you though. as a matter of fact, my service rep just called me, and now i know. Here's the facts: on road vehicles, fuels are all supposed to be ulsd(ultra low sulphur diesel)effective immediately(however, several smaller stations/distributors have not upgraded yet) by mid summer. Farm vehicles will all be mandatory by sept 1/2010 for ulsd marked diesel. Petro-canada and shell are now ulsd marked diesel, but esso not as of yet(underway though). So there you have it, straight from the manufacturers mouth.:d

 

[Big Grump]

Diesel

You da man. And thanks for the info.

i don't deal on the wholesale/bulk stations much, so i'll have to dig into it..... But from what i understand, farm vehicles are not part of the kyoto solution, so the fuel is not regulated for farm vehicles yet. I will check and confirm for you though. as a matter of fact, my service rep just called me, and now i know. Here's the facts: on road vehicles, fuels are all supposed to be ulsd(ultra low sulphur diesel)effective immediately(however, several smaller stations/distributors have not upgraded yet) by mid summer. Farm vehicles will all be mandatory by sept 1/2010 for ulsd marked diesel. Petro-canada and shell are now ulsd marked diesel, but esso not as of yet(underway though). So there you have it, straight from the manufacturers mouth.:d

 

[BIGFOOT]

i don't deal on the wholesale/bulk stations much, so i'll have to dig into it..... But from what i understand, farm vehicles are not part of the kyoto solution, so the fuel is not regulated for farm vehicles yet. I will check and confirm for you though. as a matter of fact, my service rep just called me, and now i know. Here's the facts: on road vehicles, fuels are all supposed to be ulsd(ultra low sulphur diesel)effective immediately(however, several smaller stations/distributors have not upgraded yet) by mid summer. Farm vehicles will all be mandatory by sept 1/2010 for ulsd marked diesel. Petro-canada and shell are now ulsd marked diesel, but esso not as of yet(underway though). So there you have it, straight from the manufacturers mouth.:d

Got ULSD last winter in the north country from Esso @ the card lock, Bulk fuel delivered out to the oilfield equipment was marked. This was from same location. I inquired with bulk supplier & they said it was the same fuel just w/dye added ???? Makes me wonder cause we are running all new waterous industrial high tec engines. I will check with some other suppliers & see what they say, Just did a seminar with Alert Systems ltd.... Going to contact them to see what they say, Then I will post.

 

[NosRX1]

Summitric

Thanks for the usefull information. Now I can finally look and sound smart around my friends....lol. DON"T WORRY I WILL mention the brain power of the ALMIGHTY "SUMMITRIC".....lol thanks again.

 

[SLEDBUNNYRACING]

Diesel Costs

With the ever changing price of Gas it was nice to fuel up my Diesel at Flying J yesterday at 80.1 cents a litre. Compared to my other vehicle the diesel truck has now become the "Economy" ride inthe family...who would hav thougth?????

Cheers and have a great long weekend.
80.1 cents a litre puts a big smile on my face.

 

[TylerG]

With the ever changing price of Gas it was nice to fuel up my Diesel at Flying J yesterday at 80.1 cents a litre. Compared to my other vehicle the diesel truck has now become the "Economy" ride inthe family...who would hav thougth?????

Cheers and have a great long weekend.
80.1 cents a litre puts a big smile on my face.

When I was at Hughes last night getting propane tanks filled up the girl working there said that someone heard gas was supposed to go up another 6 cents last night or today. This is getting stupid how much more of our money does the government need.

 

[Summitric]

Yup, Its Disgusting, The Price Of Gasoline

When I was at Hughes last night getting propane tanks filled up the girl working there said that someone heard gas was supposed to go up another 6 cents last night or today. This is getting stupid how much more of our money does the government need.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER 35% OF THE PRICE OF GASOLINE IS TAXES!!! MAYBE ITS TIME THE GOVERNMENT QUIT USING THE 35% TAXES AS A CASH COW......... WITH THE PRICE OF GAS @ $1.15/L WITHOUT THE 35% TAX THE GASOLINE WOULD BE $.753/L...... EVEN JUST TO LOWER THE GAS TAX BY 15% WOULD BE $.982/L, WHICH WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE "BEARABLE". IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS, AT OUR PRESENT PRICE OF $1.159/L THIS EQUATES TO $5.21/GALLON........... OUCH .
I REMEMBER WHEN I COULD FILL UP MY '69 MACH1 MUSTANG 428 COBRAJET AND GET A CASE OF BEER(BOOTLEGGED STUBBIES) AND STILL GET CHANGE BACK FROM A $20.00.
I REALLY FEEL SORRY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE NOWADAYS TRYING TO START OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PRICE OF HOUSING LATELY. A YOUNG MARRIED COUPLE CAN'T FIND HOUSING FOR LESS THAN $400,000.00 ANYMORE, AND TO MORTGAGE THAT OVER A 40 YEAR TERM AND BUY A COUPLE OF NEWER VEHICLES AND "TOYS" ETC., I REALLY FEEL FOR YOUNG PEOPLE NOW.
I KNOW I'M RANTING, AND COULD GO ON FOREVER ABOUT OUR ECONOMY, BUT I'M GONNA DRINK TEQUILA TONITE AND SIT OUTSIDE THE TRAILER BY THE FIRE AND WITH GOOD FRIENDS, FREEZING IN THE RAIN, REMINISCING ABOUT THE "OLD" DAYS.
JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH

 

[NosRX1]

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER 35% OF THE PRICE OF GASOLINE IS TAXES!!! MAYBE ITS TIME THE GOVERNMENT QUIT USING THE 35% TAXES AS A CASH COW......... WITH THE PRICE OF GAS @ $1.15/L WITHOUT THE 35% TAX THE GASOLINE WOULD BE $.753/L...... EVEN JUST TO LOWER THE GAS TAX BY 15% WOULD BE $.982/L, WHICH WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE "BEARABLE". IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS, AT OUR PRESENT PRICE OF $1.159/L THIS EQUATES TO $5.21/GALLON........... OUCH .
I REMEMBER WHEN I COULD FILL UP MY '69 MACH1 MUSTANG 428 COBRAJET AND GET A CASE OF BEER(BOOTLEGGED STUBBIES) AND STILL GET CHANGE BACK FROM A $20.00.
I REALLY FEEL SORRY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE NOWADAYS TRYING TO START OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PRICE OF HOUSING LATELY. A YOUNG MARRIED COUPLE CAN'T FIND HOUSING FOR LESS THAN $400,000.00 ANYMORE, AND TO MORTGAGE THAT OVER A 40 YEAR TERM AND BUY A COUPLE OF NEWER VEHICLES AND "TOYS" ETC., I REALLY FEEL FOR YOUNG PEOPLE NOW.
I KNOW I'M RANTING, AND COULD GO ON FOREVER ABOUT OUR ECONOMY, BUT I'M GONNA DRINK TEQUILA TONITE AND SIT OUTSIDE THE TRAILER BY THE FIRE AND WITH GOOD FRIENDS, FREEZING IN THE RAIN, REMINISCING ABOUT THE "OLD" DAYS.
JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH

Well said I couldn't agree with you more. The gas tax was to go to help up keep the roads, Well I am sorry but the roads around here are brutal!!! If you go evan further back income taxes was just going to be put in place to help fund the war.......over 60 years later we are still funding the war!!! Now I am getting all worked up!! Thank god its the long week end!!!!

 

[Summitric]

Thanks Nos

Well said I couldn't agree with you more. The gas tax was to go to help up keep the roads, Well I am sorry but the roads around here are brutal!!! If you go evan further back income taxes was just going to be put in place to help fund the war.......over 60 years later we are still funding the war!!! Now I am getting all worked up!! Thank god its the long week end!!!!

AND I'M WITH YA MAN..... MAYBE WE SHOULD RUN FOR PRIME MINISTER!! KING OF OUR OWN LOT. LOL
SEE YOU THIS WEEKEND FOR WOBBLYPOPS,,,,,,,,, YAHOO. HEADING OUT THIS AFTERNOON.
PS: WOULD BEEN COOL TO GO SLEDDIN' THOUGH

 

[rosey]

maybe they shouldn't have removed all the railway. then there probablly wouldn't be the need for all the big trucks hauling all the grain ect. destroying all of the roads. that was a real smart move!!!

 

[rknight111]

Flying J New stores opening in Edmonton, some are allready open.
I fill my truck and save over $20.00 per tank @78.9 cents per L
This is Diesel

 

[SLEDBUNNYRACING]

Ron, what do the yellow and green triangles beside each location mean?
I haven't been to the location in Edmonton on 76 ave and 18 street. Guess I 'll have to check it out.

 

[tekim]

Ron, what do the yellow and green triangles beside each location mean?
I haven't been to the location in Edmonton on 76 ave and 18 street. Guess I 'll have to check it out.

Here's the link to the Flying J website.



If Ron and the boys won't allow the link,

Green Triangle = Card Lock
Orange/Yellow Triangle = Fuel Stop
Red Star = Travel Plaza

 

[SLEDBUNNYRACING]

Thanks for the info. Just filled up with Deisel - 78.9 ltr.
$62.00 to fill the truck from empty (warning light on) 515.00 km

Here's the link to the Flying J website.



If Ron and the boys won't allow the link,

Green Triangle = Card Lock
Orange/Yellow Triangle = Fuel Stop
Red Star = Travel Plaza