Best MPG in a truck / Ecoboost sucks.

[Braddock54]

I've been driving a 14' Ecoboost Crew Cab (157" WB) for the past three years and while I like how it drives, and the interior space - this thing sucks as a daily driver.

Even on the highway, I struggle to crack 15 L per 100km. Combined I am over 16. I drive it like a grandmother. While I don't expect Prius like mileage, this is way worse than my old 5.3 Silverado. Ford pretty well dismissed me and my crazy idea that this truck should be doing better on fuel.

Suggestions on alternative vehicles, or good bang for buck mods for better MPG? Don't want to buy new again.

- Have dogs.
- 6500 lb trailer to tow.
- kids in carseats.



Thanks guys.

 

[pfi572]

I just bought a 2016 with 3:55 ratio and it's good on fuel. First one I have ever owned .
285-55/20 BFG all seasons and 2 inch leveling.
I have heard that after 60000 with to much idling they will plug up the converters and cause poor mileage.
I will see I guess.

 

[The Kickass One]

I get about the same...

 

[fnDan]

I have a 12 screw and can get as low as 12-13 on a highway trip. Averaging just over 14 all around. I will say that my economy goes way down when I fill at the shell station near my house vs petro.


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[busted2x]

Eco diesel man. Crew cab 4x4, 6.5 box full load limited.


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[busted2x]

Or a cummins! Anything diesel is a better choice. Maybe wait it out till the new f150 diesel is available if you are a ford guy. This is from my 15 2500 crew cab with 33s on 20" wheels. Still does 15l/100 with 2 sleds on the deck and 2 on the trailer. Last summer pulled my 10k trailer from Lethbridge to kelowna and averaged 18l/100 on that trip, and that's a lot of climbing.


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[doorfx]

Takes a long time to recoup $10,000 in fuel.

 

[busted2x]

Or a cummins! Anything diesel is a better choice. Maybe wait it out till the new f150 diesel is available if you are a ford guy. This is from my 15 2500 crew cab with 33s on 20" wheels. Still does 15l/100 with 2 sleds on the deck and 2 on the trailer. Last summer pulled my 10k trailer from Lethbridge to kelowna and averaged 18l/100 on that trip, and that's a lot of climbing.


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[busted2x]

Takes a long time to recoup $10,000 in fuel.

Depends how much you drive. Between the wife and I we do roughly 70000km/year. So fuel is a big expense. Cutting it in half is big. Wife has finally decided that her next will be another ecodiesel, as her Yukon xl is a consistent 18/100 average.


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[doorfx]

Agreed , high mileage is when it starts to pay. Even at an average of 5L/100k in mileage savings it would take around 200,000k to recoup and that's not including interest on the initial purchase.
WHY Polk County Switched From Diesel to Gasoline Power - Articles - Operations - Articles - Automotive Fleet

 

[busted2x]

Yes, and we still will keep the Yukon for another 3.5 years till the cummins is paid out, as I refuse to pay for 2 at the same time. My last truck was sold at 330000km, and the 08 Yukon is now at about 240000, so come time it will be what I call "done". It's only worth discussing mileage gains if you are already buying a new one for other reasons. Taking a 10k loss on a trade in to gain 5/100 would be redundant. Also helps that my dealership sells service plans. I paid $2200 when I bought the cummins for a (non transferable of course) lifetime of tire repairs and rotation, oil and filter changes, including synthetic oil, basic maintenance inspections, glass repair, roadside assistance, and paint less dent repair to any door dings I may incur. That helps offset the "diesel costs" hell if I would have sprung an extra $500 I could have had regular detailings included in that plan too, but my truck never gets dirty inside, I'm super picky about that.


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[adamg]

Agreed , high mileage is when it starts to pay. Even at an average of 5L/100k in mileage savings it would take around 200,000k to recoup and that's not including interest on the initial purchase.
WHY Polk County Switched From Diesel to Gasoline Power - Articles - Operations - Articles - Automotive Fleet

Your math fails to take into account that, come time to sell, the diesel is worth approx $7k more on the used market, so it only has to make up $3k over its ownership time.

 

[doorfx]

We haven't even talked about the math involved with the higher cost of maintaining a diesel. Oil filters,fuel filters, Def etc etc. Then if you have a mechanical issue with a diesel it's going to cost big time in comparison to a gas engine. Injectors on a 6.0l will run you $5-6k. There are tons of cost analysis studies on the net like the one I posted. Most take into consideration resale value.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

In 2012 I bought a Eco boost and was very surprised. Cruise set at 110-120 from home to Edmonton I was getting 7L/100. I was very happy with the truck and still considering another one.

 

[niner]

If you are looking for the best mileage in a 1500 it's the ecodiesel. Good stuff:My average km per oil change was 18000 kms, used very little DEF, have 150000 kms on one truck with virtually zero issues, pulls similar to a 05 duramax I had,the truck still felt brand new with no squeaks or rattles.Bad stuff: need to install heavier springs in the rear for any kind of towing,my other ecodiesel the catalytic converter plugged at 90000 kms but was covered under warranty.
So it's still early to know how good the ecodiesel is going to be. I've had lots of duramaxs with 400000 Kms with no issues so hoping my ecodiesels are as good.

 

[rebel]

We haven't even talked about the math involved with the higher cost of maintaining a diesel. Oil filters,fuel filters, Def etc etc. Then if you have a mechanical issue with a diesel it's going to cost big time in comparison to a gas engine. Injectors on a 6.0l will run you $5-6k. There are tons of cost analysis studies on the net like the one I posted. Most take into consideration resale value.

The costs are going up with a gas job as well. As they redesign it costs more to fix. My Cummins has cost me less than my hemi did. I can go a lot farther pulling . The hemi I was always looking for fuel. Oil changes are a bit more but not much. Rest of the truck falls apart the same whether it's gas or diesel. There are reports supporting both arguments on cost overall. It gets pricey if you get a lemon.

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[doorfx]

There is a reason why fleets don't run diesel anymore I love a diesel.

 

[j335]

6.2l GM half ton with 8 speed, previously had a 3/4 ton dmax and two 1/2 ton hemi's before. 12l/100km at 120km/hr empty in winter so not bad for such a big motor. Hauls my travel trailer of 6500-7500lbs just fine, definitely miss my 3/4 ton for stability sometimes but gotta say this motor with tranny does way better than I thought it would and much better than my hemi's.

I actually preferred the Ford half tons at test drive time but I found Ford quality & service not up to par with GM.

 

[Lem Lamb]

^^^ X's by 2. Doorfx

Last 4 companies and 2 counties have gone back to gas.

Yes, gas motors "kinda" suck on mileage, but the all out costs at 300.000 kms and the pannels are bent and rusted the "resale" is low.

Best mileage units I've owned are used units with big and small gas motors.
Trucks are frugal too buy and look ok the day I get the keys.
Lots of diesel-fuel/gear-oil spray too slow down rust and try not too allow the farm Kows too bend to pannels.
Either we finish them off at farm, or sell at low price too use left over funds towards the next.



Yes.
It's nice too get good fuel mileage, but it "could" be wize too "consider" the whole package idea over the long hual.

Saving 5 L's over X amount of miles X's the savings in fuel too cost of truck "and" if re-sale is part of the math.

Is it worth it too you over the long haul plan you come up with.

My big truck does the big work, and small truck is small stuff and part time car.

I owned many a cars, and I hope too never own another one as long as I'm able not too.

Lem at burning gas as needed.

 

[DDrake]

I have 61k on my 14 Ecoboost now and am very happy with it. I get around 12.5-13 on the hwy when running empty. I pull my 22' enclosed sled trailer most weekends with 3 sleds plus gear and will average around 22-23 l/100 if I keep it below 110. I would buy another one at this point without hesitation. Super quiet and pulls effortlessly. It doesn't pull like a diesel but it does pretty well with my stuff for a gasser. That being said if the ecodiesel would have been around the same price at the time of purchase I would have had a very tough decision to make.