Mine gets me where I need to go; I could care less who can make the highest mark on the hill. You guys can go up and down the hill all day long and leave the rest of the area to me. Eventually a turbo always shows up and then you guys with your big bores are all tucking your tails and looking for another hill too. Brian's worked good in Chappel Creek; but for a stock sled Marko's Etec was impressive.